(Date unknown - late 1996/early 1997)

TOM: there's something interesting about walking in and buying them in a drugstore as opposed to a department store because you can buy a lotto ticket and a pair of those as well. [Marilyn laughs]

TWIGGY: I think it is a fantastic aphrodisiac as well.

TOM: Yes. Adam, Modern Rock Live with Marilyn Manson and Twiggy. Go ahead.

ADAM: What bands did you guys listen to when you were growing up?

MARILYN: Growing up? Let's see...maybe me and Twiggy will trade off. You go ahead Twiggy.

TWIGGY: Dr. Hook, Iron Maiden.


TWIGGY: Stooges.

MARILYN: Adamant. I've mentioned before Bowie and Alice Cooper and KISS. DO, Black Sabbath, a lot of that stuff. You know, the high school era. I remember I was probably about 14 when bands like Motley Crue started.

TWIGGY: Shout at the Devil, Twisted Sister.

TOM: You mention Alice Cooper which is pretty interesting. Out of all the ones you mentioned, he won't even talk about the genre music he created back in the '70's. He won't even bring it up anymore. Do you find that kind of hypocritical or that he's just trying to hide away from it?

MARILYN: Well, from what I understand-and I'm in no position to criticize him-he went through re-hab for drinking, or whatever it might have been, and that he became a born-again Christian. I'm not real sure, maybe that's part of it that he doesn't enjoy that part of his life anymore.

TOM: Oh, ok.

MARILYN: But I thought he did some great music in his time.

TOM: Marilyn Manson is with us on Modern Rock Live. Oh, if you people only know what happened when the commercials were on. I'm Tom Caldarone. Live from New York City, you're listening to interactive alternative radio. This is Modern Rock Live. Tonight, we're very pleased to have Marilyn Manson tonight with us. I wanted to ask you a question. I was actually at the Irving Plaza show in New York maybe a couple of months ago when you opened up for Nine Inch Nails. There was an interesting incident that happened where the mic stand actually flew into the direction of the drummer, into Ginger. Was that planned or was that just kind of like "oops"?

MARILYN: No, that was actually a big accident. I saw Trent standing backstage and I was trying to hit him in the head and I hit Ginger by accident.

TOM: (laughs) Is he ok?

MARILYN: Yeah, he didn't mind. Trent had gone into our dressing room and he put on one of Twiggy's dresses and he was imitating Courtney Love backstage. It made me upset so I threw a mic stand at him.

TOM: (laughs) Oh, man. Let's go back to our phones. Well actually, it wasn't funny at the time but looking back at it maybe it was. Orally, you're on with Marilyn Manson. Thanks for calling. That's a nice name.

ORALLY: Thank you. Can we expect to see anything different on stage for this tour?

MARILYN: Where you at?

ORALLY: I'm in Sacramento.

MARILYN: Yeah, we're going to be coming there after the first of the year. The show is a lot like the record. The transformation that takes place on the album and the sort of birth of Antichrist Superstar-so to speak-is translated in a live fashion. It's a lot bigger and worse than it's ever been in the past. So I think as far as it being different, it's still very much Marilyn Manson but there's more of it.

TOM: How expensive and intense was this actual show as far as putting it together and actually getting it on tour? Does it take a little extra time to get things set up? There are some interesting things that happen during the show, I don't want to spoil it for everybody, but how hard is it to actually put this particular show together?

MARILYN: I'm not real sure. I never really get involved in that because if I have an idea I'll just have somebody else carry it out because I don't like to let money or something like that get in the way of bringing across what we want to do.

TWIGGY: Well, drugs cost about $150, so...about $150 a night.

MARILYN: (laughs) It costs us $150 a night to go on stage. But that's a different expense.

TOM: Ok, there you go. (laughs) Jamie, you're on with Marilyn Manson. Thanks for calling Modern Rock Live.

JAMIE: Um, yeah...I have a question. I was curious about how Marilyn got into Anton LaVey and the Satanic religion.

MARILYN: Well, it's one philosophy among many that I enjoy and incorporate into my life. I grew up with a lot of people like Aleister Crowley and Friedrich Nietzche and Darwin and even Freud to a certain extent and Anton LaVey was kind of a modern version of all those people. Satanism is something that gets really sensationalized in America but it's really a philosophy about self-preservation and being an individual and being your own god. It doesn't really have a whole lot to do with worshipping the devil. In fact, at this point if I'm not mistaken, Marilyn Manson is bigger than Satan.

TOM: Can we quote you on that?

MARILYN: More people believe in me than they do in him.

TOM: So are we going to see people burning albums and CD's in a couple of weeks?

MARILYN: I hope so, as long as they buy them first.

TOM: (laughs) Wes, thanks for calling.

MARILYN: You can crush them up and snort them for all I care. (laughs)

TOM: (laughs) Just buy them first. Wes, you're on the air. Thanks.

WES: Uh, hey. If you weren't musicians what would you be?

[Twiggy whispers "prostitute" in the background]

MARILYN: So, are you calling me a musician?

WES: Yeah. (laughs)

MARILYN: (laughs) I'm just kidding. Uh, I suppose TV evangelism would be my only alternative because it's kind of similar to what I do. I have things on my mind that I want to say and I go around the country saying them to a lot of people. It's not real different than what a missionary would do...except that I have to pay taxes at the end of the year.

TOM: (laughs) Twiggy, how about you?

TWIGGY: Prostitute.

TOM: (pause) Ok. Well...

TWIGGY: Whiskey, speed, sell drugs.

TOM: Take that job lying down, thank you.

TOM: Modern Rock Live. Chris...

MARILYN: That song is going to be played in strip bars...

TOM: Yes.

MARILYN: Except that...

CHRIS: Hi, my question is...

TOM: Except that what? No, no, hold on. Chris we're talking here. MARILYN: That's ok. Go ahead.

TOM: Go ahead Marilyn. I'm sorry. Chris is interrupting us.

TOM: Ok, Chris go ahead.

CHRIS: Ok. My question is did you guys have any interesting jobs before you were signed?

MARILYN: Uh, no I actually never could put my mind to working a real job because I always felt like I had something more valuable to spend my time doing because I was always daydreaming or trying to draw a picture or write down some idea or something. The only job I really remember having, my first job, was driving a car delivering pizzas when I was about 16...but I ended up crashing the car into a telephone pole so I got fired.

TOM: Were you ok?


TOM: What were the names?

TWIGGY:, no. Nevermind.

TOM: (laughs) Ok.

MARILYN: He doesn't like to talk about it but he's one of the founding guitarists of the whole Tampa death metal scene.

TOM: Oh, really...ahh Twiggy we'll get into that later. Danielle, thanks for calling. You're on with Marilyn Manson.

DANIELLE: Hi, I actually have two questions.

MARILYN: Alright.

DANIELLE: The first question is what was the strangest thing that happened to you while you were touring, and how do you feel about having commercial success?

MARILYN: Uh, the strangest thing...that's hard because things that I find strange, a lot of people consider to be everyday for them. We live in a very detached, supernatural kind of reality so sometimes something like just going into a truck stop is strange for us because we're not used to interacting with what people would call normal society. What was the second part of your question?

DANIELLE: Um, how do you feel about having commercial success?

MARILYN: Well, I've always felt that rather than to be being told and to have to fit into the standard of what's popular, we've always done what we like to do. We've managed to now become part of the mainstream in order to overcome it and change what it's about. It's just like the idea of if a million people in America own a bible and they believe it, then that makes God a reality. If a million people buy a Marilyn Manson record and believe it, then that makes Marilyn Manson a reality.

TOM: Good question Danielle. Thanks for calling.

TOM: Marilyn and Twiggy, thanks so much for spending time with us. It was fun and you guys answered all the questions. I wish we could have more time but please come back again and chat with us

MARILYN: Thanks a lot and thanks for all the people that called. We appreciate it.

TOM: Coming up next we have Korn that's gonna join us and I know you guys probably hang out quite a bit because you guys kind of hooked up. I understand Philadelphia is quite a stomping ground for you guys.

MARILYN: Uh, with Korn, you mean?

TOM: Yeah, yeah.

MARILYN: There was one moment...yeah, like I mentioned before, it was strange touring with those guys because the singer and I talked a lot. The bass player has this weird thing where he thinks that he's Gary Coleman and he puts on brown makeup and stuff.

TOM: Ohhh, yeah?

MARILYN: I didn't understand it because I thought it was a joke at first but he had this wierd fetish with that. When we were in Philadelphia just recently, we ran into those guys and he was all dressed up in brown again. The singer ended up on our bus and actually when we were on tour with them before, he got in trouble because he wasn't allowed to hang out with us because he would always get sent home either drunk or having a lot of pain in his rear or something of that nature.

TOM: (laughs) Oh, jeez.

MARILYN: The same sort of thing happened...we ran into them and he thought he could hang with the big fellas but I told him if you're gonna hang out at the barber shop, expect to get a haircut. He went home crying.

TOM: (laughs) "Whatcha talking about Marilyn?"

[Twiggy mumbles something in the background]

MARILYN: What's that?

TWIGGY: Nothing.